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-What is humanistic therapy and how can it help with codependency?

-Why is it important to change how we see ourselves with understanding?

-How can we begin to improve our self-esteem, self-worth, and sense of self?

Welcome to Episode 132! This week, I had the pleasure of interviewing Lindsay Scales, LMFT. Lindsay uses a variety of therapeutic approaches and came to educate us all about one of her specialities: humanistic therapy. In the episode, you’ll hear Lindsay open up about codependency in her own life and how, thanks to her own therapy, she’s been able to channel that into an impactful career as a therapist. You’ll learn about Carl Rogers, the creator of humanistic therapy, and how he treated patients with understanding, compassion, and viewed them as “the expert.” Lindsay details the initial steps she takes with her clients struggling with codependency and you’ll leave with useful guidance on how to improve how you view yourself. It’s a must-listen!

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Lindsay Scales is an LMFT in Southern California. For the past twenty years of her career, LIndsay’s therapeutic skills consist of humanistic, strengths-based, client-centered, and psychodynamic approaches with a holistic perspective; meeting clients where they are in their journey. She has been invited to work with people from all walks of life, at different stages of life, and is always honored by the invitation.

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We begin with hearing Lindsay’s definition of codependency: the absence of self in relationships, including familial, romantic, social, and professional. She add how codependents often neglect themselves, totally rely on others, and are susceptible to connecting with individuals who struggle with addiction or illness.

Lindsay shares with us about her own experiences of codependency, including how she was “set up” as a child of a single parent whose religion, community, and culture encouraged codependent behaviors. Once Lindsay began attending therapy, she realized how her efforts to “show love” to others was misaligned with her needs.

We shift focus to one of Lindsay’s specialties: humanistic therapy. She describes the humanistic approach: treating the whole individual human rather than the symptom/illness/sickness/disorder. With the approach, the emphasis is on looking back at their whole history and consider all aspects in therapy.

Lindsay details how codependents are viewed through a humanistic lense: codependency is a part of the person but does not define them on the whole. Humanistic therapists attempt to offer space for patients to look at other aspects of their lives and focus on their needs. Throughout the therapeutic process, the focus is on building rapport, offering understanding, compassion, creating a safe space, and providing UNCONDITIONAL POSITIVE REGARD (UPR). UPR was a radical concept created by Rogers where he attempted to provide his patients with unconditionally positive responses in order to combat their shame, embarrassment, and negative self-judgments.

Lindsay emphasizes how, through this approach, one is able to radically change their sense of self: they improve their self-worth, self-esteem, self-love, etc. As an initial step, one can ask “how do I currently view myself?” and “how do I want to view myself?” Then, begin to take steps to move towards what you want.

Thanks for coming on Lindsay! And thank you for listening, my dear listener!


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